09 February 2012

Such a Big Difference

The poll shows that 53 percent of self-identified liberal Democrats — and 67 percent of moderate or conservative Democrats — support keeping Guantanamo Bay open, even though it emerged as a symbol of the post-Sept. 11 national security policies of President George W. Bush, which many liberals bitterly opposed.

Hey, remember how all the lefties were criticizing Bushitler for keeping Guantanamo Bay open?  Why aren’t they doing the same to Obamao?  Oh, it’s because liberals aren’t actually different from conservatives at all when it comes to principles and policy?  Could’ve fooled me, what with all the political rancor between the two sides…


  1. As a liberal democrat (with a lowercase d!) I feel betrayed. I'm shocked by the number, too: who the heck are those 53 percent? What demographics are they?--cuz they sure as heck aren't any demographics I'm in.

  2. @GFM- I'd imagine that the 53% are probably southern and Midwestern liberal democrats. These people are both big government and pro-military. Still, it is weird that liberals aren't as collectively anti-war as one would suspect.

  3. This has been pointed out by many far more eloquent than I -- to the point of cliche by now -- but politics in modern America is ultimately just a vehicle for cultural signaling.

    Those who embraced Obama did so not because they actually "cared" about Guantanamo and whatnot. They embraced him because such an embrace was a social marker, just as an embrace of Sarah Palin was a social marker for other folks.

    None of this stuff has anything to do with principles or philosophy or even (ugh) "policy." It's all about cultural positioning, and is thus at its root about as primitive and base as humanity gets.

    This sort of politics is a luxury. It's the mark of a comfortable, spoiled society unaware of what's really at stake, and oblivious to its own steady self-destruction.

  4. @Display Name- "Luxury" is indeed the word for it. It simply amazes me how much money is spent on politics. Not only on campaign spending, mind you, but on political commentary, political news, and political analysis. It truly is mind-boggling how commercialized politics has become, and how it is not distinguishable from reality TV.